tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post6637317221340770005..comments2023-10-21T05:40:55.660-04:00Comments on man with black hat: Jackie Gingrich Cushman Explains It (Almost) For YouDavid L Alexanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-2367247057487735512011-05-10T11:43:34.740-04:002011-05-10T11:43:34.740-04:00Jesus may have forgiven him, but I look on past be...Jesus may have forgiven him, but I look on past behavior as a predictor for future behavior. I'd be more inclined to forgive him for his adultery than appearing in a television commercial with Nancy Pelosi promoting global warming. :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-73299902662400545272011-05-10T09:36:06.530-04:002011-05-10T09:36:06.530-04:00"The actions by Pelosi, Sebelius, et al as fa...<i>"The actions by Pelosi, Sebelius, et al as far as their public offices are a completely different thing and a far more troubling one."</i><br /><br />... which is precisely why Catholics deserve a choice which is above scrutiny, above scandal. Anyone can talk a good game. Some "Catholic leaders" here in Washington are lapping it up, wrapping it in the mantle of orthodoxy. At the end of the day, Catholics (and their potential as a voting bloc) will still be split, just like the last two or three elections.David L Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-37424603805927423692011-05-10T09:11:20.577-04:002011-05-10T09:11:20.577-04:00I am perfectly willing to accept the tribunal'...I am perfectly willing to accept the tribunal's ruling on these cases and give Newt the benefit of the doubt as a relatively new Catholic "in good standing."<br /><br />I would never vote for him for president. Ever.<br /><br />But the whole "what the heck is up with those marriages and how can he be a Catholic?" question is, to me, a lesser deal than the "how can Nancy Pelosi, Kathleen Sebelius, and their ilk be considered Catholic?" question. Sins of the flesh have always been considered differently from other kinds of sin. You can make a case for the bizarre climate of our country as far as marriage is concerned influencing anyone's personal behavior. The actions by Pelosi, Sebelius, et al as far as their public offices are a completely different thing and a far more troubling one.Gail Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11740482509910163332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-57161922825491233822011-05-10T09:10:12.417-04:002011-05-10T09:10:12.417-04:00Tina:
Thanks for writing.
The "modern annul...Tina:<br /><br />Thanks for writing.<br /><br />The "modern annulment situation" has no more to do with it than the not-so-modern one, but it does seem to call into question its use (for all practical purposes) as a panacea for a free "do-over." If a guy's gonna be a dog (generally speaking), an annulment will not make him any less of one. Perhaps he has truly had a change of heart. But the organizers of the NCPB are effectively touting this man as the key to "the Catholic vote."<br /><br />My question is the one my Mom and Dad asked about Kennedy in 1960 (before voting for Nixon): What's so Catholic about it?David L Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-47139192852407719692011-05-10T08:21:15.729-04:002011-05-10T08:21:15.729-04:00So Newt has 2 living ex-wives? I am confused. LOL....So Newt has 2 living ex-wives? I am confused. LOL.<br /><br />Yes, their situation makes me uncomfortable too. <br /><br />The whole modern annulment situation doesn't help anyone achieve the best possible life-choices, IMHO. But then the influences of today's lost society and morals blurs what we think we know.<br /><br />I consider that so many people lost future spouses through abortion and contraception, that the Church's looseness and ambiguity could be a mercy to those who might be otherwise unbearably lonely. I dunno.<br /><br />Callista is gorgeous and seems devout. But I'd prefer a Presidential nominee who has a stable marriage without all these questions.Tina in Ashburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911446639458598875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-74499287750746946772011-05-09T22:07:10.850-04:002011-05-09T22:07:10.850-04:00You wrote "even after the death of a spouse.&...You wrote "even after the death of a spouse." I took it to refer only to that event. My mistake.<br /><br />Yes, we are agreed on the matter of annulments, and on the prospect of scandal even as they apply here. What is perplexing is that someone like this is feted by ostensibly faithful Catholics, who would (most likely) be loathe to associate with a next-door neighbor guilty of the same, but who wasn't so valuable politically. And these people would claim to organize "the Catholic vote."<br /><br />Come next year, we're in more trouble than we thought.David L Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-59511265961285456282011-05-09T21:49:22.171-04:002011-05-09T21:49:22.171-04:00I said "even if" the spouse is dead; how...I said "even if" the spouse is dead; how much more it applies if the spouse is still alive!<br />I have a good friend who committed adultery, left his wife for the other woman, divorced and then got an annulment, then married the adulterous partner <i>in the Church</i> (and the bride wore white). THAT is a scandal.<br />I do not question that there are valid reasons for declaration of nullity- my sister's "husband" slept with one of her bridesmaids the night before the wedding- but the current situation in the USA is pretty pathetic. Anyone can get an annulment and marry his honey, if he can still his conscience.<br />And old Newtie, kissing up to the Catholic voters with Old Number 3 on his arm? Mr Instant Catholic? Give me a break. If his conversion was more than skin deep he would lay low and shut up for a good while...Daniel Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10601227133868864724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-9396328910506461572011-05-09T21:39:00.119-04:002011-05-09T21:39:00.119-04:00Since the spouse has not died, that provision woul...Since the spouse has not died, that provision would not apply here. Still, and even without knowledge of the canonical proceedings, this is a separate issue from the matter of annulments. A man who suffers no consequences from a less-than-exemplary life might end up being touted as "the Catholic candidate."David L Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871706129906941567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3589378.post-15165175498642118572011-05-09T21:01:24.826-04:002011-05-09T21:01:24.826-04:00There is an ancient canon against marrying an adul...There is an ancient canon against marrying an adulterous partner, even after the death of a spouse. I believe that the Orthodox still hold to this. Would that Catholics would reinstate it. Gingrich is only the most public case- I know others- where the Church's policy seems to be "Yes, you get the annulment, plus you get to keep the girl". <br />It is truly a scandal.Daniel Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10601227133868864724noreply@blogger.com